Proposal:Catholic

Proposal

For catholic elements, instead of using complicated denominations like denomination=roman_catholic or denomination=greek_catholic, use the generic and already wide used denomination=catholic with catholic=roman or catholic=greek (or any other relevant rite in full communion with catholic church).

Rationale

There are three main reasons for this proposal :

• Getting a list of catholic items (for example by using Overpass API) is currently very hard if one wants to be sure to select everything: according to Denomination wiki page, there are 15 possible specific values of the denomination=* key for a catholic item.
• denomination=* specific values are greatly underused: for example in France, where everything catholic should be tagged as denomination=roman_catholic with only a few dozens of non-roman catholic establishments exceptions, denomination=catholic remains by far the most used value.
• On the ecclesiastic point of view, speaking about different denominations between different rites is wrong.

Adding the new tag catholic=* to the existing denomination=catholic is the best way to add information without breaking an existing tag and make filtering easy.

Tagging

Values of catholic=* should be the adapted values from Denomination:

• catholic=armenian
• catholic=chaldean
• catholic=coptic
• catholic=eritrean
• catholic=ethiopian
• catholic=greek
• catholic=hungarian_greek
• catholic=maronite
• catholic=polish
• catholic=polish_national
• catholic=roman
• catholic=romanian
• catholic=syriac
• catholic=syro-malabar
• catholic=ukrainian_greek

Examples

The items that should have the proposed tag are all the ones that have denomination=catholic or a relevant rite in full communion with the catholic church. This includes:

• buildings or nodes representing churches or religious offices
• religious boundaries like parishes, pastoral units, dioceses, provinces and national conferences

Features/Pages affected

The following wiki pages should be modified if accepted:

• Denomination
• Tag:religion=christian

External discussions

This was previously discussed on talk-fr mailing list (in french) and tagging mailing list (in English).

Going further/out of topic

This proposal is limited to the catholic denomination. However, some other denominations like protestants and orthodox could use the same idea for their own rites/sub-denominations. I do know very little of those denominations position on that though, so this proposition should keep its limitation to catholics.